Thursday, February 17, 2005

About Art

Since the topic of contemporary art (which may be in worse shape even than contemporary literature) came up on this blog, I thought I'd throw out there for comment a piece written about our friend Roger D. Hodge, Number Two at Harper's, and his critical abilities.

See www.montrealserai.com/2000_Volume_13/13_1/Article_3.htm, if I got that right!

My own opinion is that self-absorbed obsessions masquerading as "transgressive" art is a cute way for the establishment to keep the spotlight away from truly transgressive art-- that which confronts the evils and machinations of this society.

6 comments:

Noah Cicero said...

I just read the article. All I can assume is that upper classes and their colleges must teach nothing and positively reinforce stupidity as much as possible. The state universities do it too but for them it is just playing because those kids will never make it to a big enough grad school to get paid for their nonsensical art. I've known some pretty intelligent and considerate working class kids go to state university art programs and come out dumber then when they went in four years ago. They might know more big words and who this or that person is but their thinking capabilities have been reduced to four year olds.
If art or lit is in a worse state I don't know. Last summer I picked up a college magazine of writing, I forget what is was called. it was orange and the cover had holes in it, the cover was pomo-art. And one of the short stories was just the word "one" over and over again like this.
One One One One One One one.
"One one one?"
"One."
It was like that for eight pages or so.
All I can assume from their creations is that actually reading the stories means nothing to them. Owning it and letting people know they have it is was matters. It is the same thing people do who have no personalities do with boats or SUVs or white carpeting. They define themselves by what objects they own. They think they are more intelligent then the rest of object loving America but in reality they are the same. Instead of buying some boat to show their friends, they buy some book or go to some art show to show their friends.
What really pisses me off about those people is that they look down on regular people constantly if you are talking to them about movies and say you really enjoy Smokey and the Bandit or The Good, The Bad, The Ugly they look at you like you're scum. And then twenty minutes later when philosophy comes up and say you read Wittgenstein and Sartre they look at you like scum again because they never read those writers and don't even know who they are, and since you enjoy Smokey and The Bandit and don't go to college you must not have the RIGHT to read those writers. And who are you to challange my intelligence white trash boy.
Tell me if I'm correct there is a huge difference in the ideology of The ULA and the beatniks. It can be defined like this: I saw the best minds of my generation angered by stupidity, eating ramon, pissed as hell, guns locked and loaded

Noah Cicero said...

I just read the article. All I can assume is that upper classes and their colleges must teach nothing and positively reinforce stupidity as much as possible. The state universities do it too but for them it is just playing because those kids will never make it to a big enough grad school to get paid for their nonsensical art. I've known some pretty intelligent and considerate working class kids go to state university art programs and come out dumber then when they went in four years ago. They might know more big words and who this or that person is but their thinking capabilities have been reduced to four year olds.
If art or lit is in a worse state I don't know. Last summer I picked up a college magazine of writing, I forget what is was called. it was orange and the cover had holes in it, the cover was pomo-art. And one of the short stories was just the word "one" over and over again like this.
One One One One One One one.
"One one one?"
"One."
It was like that for eight pages or so.
All I can assume from their creations is that actually reading the stories means nothing to them. Owning it and letting people know they have it is was matters. It is the same thing people do who have no personalities do with boats or SUVs or white carpeting. They define themselves by what objects they own. They think they are more intelligent then the rest of object loving America but in reality they are the same. Instead of buying some boat to show their friends, they buy some book or go to some art show to show their friends.
What really pisses me off about those people is that they look down on regular people constantly if you are talking to them about movies and say you really enjoy Smokey and the Bandit or The Good, The Bad, The Ugly they look at you like you're scum. And then twenty minutes later when philosophy comes up and say you read Wittgenstein and Sartre they look at you like scum again because they never read those writers and don't even know who they are, and since you enjoy Smokey and The Bandit and don't go to college you must not have the RIGHT to read those writers. And who are you to challange my intelligence white trash boy.
Tell me if I'm correct there is a huge difference in the ideology of The ULA and the beatniks. It can be defined like this: I saw the best minds of my generation enraged by stupidity, eating ramon, pissed as hell, guns locked and loaded

Noah Cicero said...

``It's a human project. All our projects are very dynamic. They stir emotion because of the cloth.'' Quote Christo off of Netscape.com

Lets analyze these sentences.

"it's a human project."
Well, it was done by humans. It wasn't done by alligators or tigers.
"All our projects are very dynamic." I guess he is telling us that they always do dynamic projects. I think he is writing his own review there. Like if I said, "My books are always awsome." Lets try to do a language game with this.
Christo: All my projects are dynamic.
Person: No, I don't think so.
Christo: No, You're wrong there, ALL my projects are dynamic.
Person: But it doesn't seem like it, what's your evidence?
Christo: Because all MY projects are dynamic.
Person: But what makes it dynamic?
Christo: Because I did it.

"They stir emotion because of the cloth."
It must be said that emotion is caused by a problem, like pop not coming out of a machine, your wife beating you all the time, the stupdity of the Dave Eggers literary world. Problems cause you to have emotions. used Sartre and Skinner for that.
Next cloth, what is cloth? Cloth is a substance that is used to make clothes, pillow covers, bed sheets, etc.
All right, how does something that is used to put on your pillow case when draped over a concrete walkway in a pissant sized piece of man made woods in a big plastic city where most people are play-acting they are in a hollywood movie make a problem that causes emotion?
The only time cloth causes emotion is when your favorite shirt gets a hole in it or you are wearing a white shirt and you get some speghetti on it and you just washed it yesterday.
Conclusion from this analysis: Those sentences don't make any fucking sense. Christo is a robot that is programed to come up with ideas that have nothing to do with reality and is also programmed to worship himself.

- Leopold said...

These a funny clip about Christo and the 'Gates' on the Daily Show w/ John Stewart website (www.thedailyshow.com). Click on videos, go under 'view all videos from this show' and find 'Piles of Sheet'. I think you might find it sympathetic.

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